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PostSubject: Ahsoka vs Bastila   Ahsoka vs Bastila EmptyFri Apr 04, 2014 9:53 pm

Bastila from KOTOR vs. Ahsoka as of Season 5 of TCW.  Who wins?

1.  Sabers
2.  Force
3.  All-out
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PostSubject: Re: Ahsoka vs Bastila   Ahsoka vs Bastila EmptyFri Apr 04, 2014 10:14 pm

Shan crushes. Bastila was one of the most powerful Jedi during an era where:
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PostSubject: Re: Ahsoka vs Bastila   Ahsoka vs Bastila EmptyFri Apr 04, 2014 10:27 pm

Any... Personal feats? I don't buy into "powerful Jedi in powerful era" mentality. Is vrook also incredibly powerful?
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PostSubject: Re: Ahsoka vs Bastila   Ahsoka vs Bastila EmptyFri Apr 04, 2014 10:32 pm

Stated as one of the most powerful Jedi during the prime of the Jedi (vrook isn't called one of the best)
Her force stun on the Star Forge was capable off freezing Revan temporarily. 
Her battle mediation is nearly unrivaled throughout the mythos. 
Has a pain threshold of withstanding torture for over a week strait until giving in. 
She, even as a padawan, was so skilled she was chosen to lead the strike team to face Revan (an incredible privileged).
And: "Though there was immense power in the Shan bloodline, there is also a streak of unorthodoxy."
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PostSubject: Re: Ahsoka vs Bastila   Ahsoka vs Bastila EmptyFri Apr 04, 2014 10:39 pm

Personally, I don't disagree with you.

And yes, it's stated as the prime of the Jedi, that hardly changes that there's only a few impressive Jedi in that era
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PostSubject: Re: Ahsoka vs Bastila   Ahsoka vs Bastila EmptyFri Apr 04, 2014 10:43 pm

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And yes, it's stated as the prime of the Jedi, that hardly changes that there's only a few impressive Jedi in that era
You can't make such a claim because majority of the Jedi we do not know about, however let's look at the ones we do know: Exar Kun, Ulic-Qel Droma, Nomi Sunrider, Arca Jeth, Vodo-Siosk Baas, Revan, Malak, Kreia, Bastila, the Exile, etc.
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PostSubject: Re: Ahsoka vs Bastila   Ahsoka vs Bastila EmptyFri Apr 04, 2014 10:59 pm

I for one despise using "golden age bullshit" as an instawin
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PostSubject: Re: Ahsoka vs Bastila   Ahsoka vs Bastila EmptyFri Apr 04, 2014 11:09 pm

Exactly
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PostSubject: Re: Ahsoka vs Bastila   Ahsoka vs Bastila EmptyFri Apr 04, 2014 11:22 pm

I know jack shit about Shan, but from reading her Wookieepedia, I might say Ahsoka, but again,  I know jack shit about Shan, and I have never played KOTOR. I see she wields a double-bladed saber, Anakin made Ahsoka train for hours to combat opponents using double-blades (supposedly). So I guess that gives her an advantage in a way, though I don't really know...
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PostSubject: Re: Ahsoka vs Bastila   Ahsoka vs Bastila EmptyFri Apr 04, 2014 11:27 pm

Bastila shan did leave a powerful blood line but I don't think video game characters , Nox, HOT, Bastilla, can be used or even placed without some true solid material being released for them (Books, graphic novels ex)
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PostSubject: Re: Ahsoka vs Bastila   Ahsoka vs Bastila EmptyFri Apr 04, 2014 11:38 pm

That being said, Bastila curve stomps. Here's my logic. Bastila was almost defiantly in Revans league. Why because after Malek turned her to the darkside he sent her ALONE to battle Revan and companions, and while Revan defeated her, I don't imagine it was an easy fight for either of them. Also Bastila is part of the Shan blood-line, which pretty much makes her inherently powerful, almost like being a Skywalker or a Solo, after the two blood lines merged
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PostSubject: Re: Ahsoka vs Bastila   Ahsoka vs Bastila EmptyFri Apr 04, 2014 11:40 pm

Is the fight when she is a Jedi or Sith, I think that makes all the difference...
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PostSubject: Re: Ahsoka vs Bastila   Ahsoka vs Bastila EmptyFri Apr 04, 2014 11:41 pm

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Bastila was almost defiantly in Revans league
Bastila is no where near Revan's league, she even admits this in the novel.
She fought Revan (without his companions) with the aid of the most powerful nexus ever (with the exception of that of Abeloth's [stated to be wayyyy more powerful then Lethon]), and Revan still wiped the floor with her.
Revan is among the greatest in the mythos, as even out right stated in various sources, being one of the most powerful Sith Lords and among the very top ranks of "the most powerful of the Jedi."
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PostSubject: Re: Ahsoka vs Bastila   Ahsoka vs Bastila EmptySat Apr 05, 2014 12:17 pm

Both are young, brash, hot-headed And arrogant. And they might be the same age?(Mission states Bastila isn't that much older than her) however Bastila was able to hold off Revan, Juhani, Joker Bindo and Darth Malak, Two of which were exclusively skilled in Melee combat(Juhani & Malak) and the other two, Revan and Jolee were powerful force users(with Revan also being a expert duelist). And ahsoka has fought against Ventress and Dooku along with other Dark Jedi. And lets be honest out of all the opponents she's faced Dooku and Maul are the most impressive(this coming from someone who loves Ventress and Grievous)
I Honestly love Ahsoka(don't You dare make a joke Excalibur!) But she's not as skilled and experienced as Bastila imo
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PostSubject: Re: Ahsoka vs Bastila   Ahsoka vs Bastila EmptySat Apr 05, 2014 12:23 pm

Ahsoka never faced Dooku or Maul. I don't even think she ever met them.
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PostSubject: Re: Ahsoka vs Bastila   Ahsoka vs Bastila EmptySat Apr 05, 2014 12:25 pm

Oh sorry I haven't watched TCW in a long time. :/
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PostSubject: Re: Ahsoka vs Bastila   Ahsoka vs Bastila EmptySat Apr 05, 2014 12:26 pm

Her most impressive opponents are probably Grievous, Vizsla, and Ventress.
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PostSubject: Re: Ahsoka vs Bastila   Ahsoka vs Bastila EmptySat Apr 05, 2014 12:42 pm

Didn't she face Grievous with some one else?
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PostSubject: Re: Ahsoka vs Bastila   Ahsoka vs Bastila EmptySat Apr 05, 2014 1:30 pm

Fated Xtasy wrote:
Both are young, brash, hot-headed And arrogant. And they might be the same age?(Mission states Bastila isn't that much older than her) however Bastila was able to hold off Revan, Juhani, Joker Bindo and Darth Malak, Two of which were exclusively skilled in Melee combat(Juhani & Malak) and the other two, Revan and Jolee were powerful force users(with Revan also being a expert duelist). And ahsoka has fought against Ventress and Dooku along with other Dark Jedi. And lets be honest out of all the opponents she's faced Dooku and Maul are the most impressive(this coming from someone who loves Ventress and Grievous)
I Honestly love Ahsoka(don't You dare make a joke Excalibur!) But she's not as skilled and experienced as Bastila imo

Well, to be fair, Ahsoka isn't brash, hot-headed and arrogant anymore...
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PostSubject: Re: Ahsoka vs Bastila   Ahsoka vs Bastila EmptySat Apr 05, 2014 6:54 pm

Fated Xtasy wrote:
Didn't she face Grievous with some one else?
She faced Grievous alone, but he was clearly toying with her and she ran away. To be fair this is far more than most padawans could reasonably hope for.
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PostSubject: Re: Ahsoka vs Bastila   Ahsoka vs Bastila EmptySat Apr 05, 2014 7:02 pm

Finally!
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PostSubject: Re: Ahsoka vs Bastila   Ahsoka vs Bastila EmptyThu Jun 05, 2014 2:52 am

The problem with Bastila is that it's relatively unknown how powerful she was at her peak, as the period where we saw her most was during her time as a Padawan, unless we're including her status as a Sith Apprentice.

If we're looking at Padawan Bastila from KotOR, I don't see any reason why Ahsoka doesn't have a fair shot--She's one of the best of her day as well, you know.
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PostSubject: Re: Ahsoka vs Bastila   Ahsoka vs Bastila EmptyFri Jun 06, 2014 11:59 pm

Yeah, people don't seem to realize that a lot of the time.
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